New marital developments

patw3268 · Post by **patw3268** » Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:18 pm

I’d love to be in your shoes, Tacoma. I’m sure it’s not as easy as I imagine but I’d still 100% love to experience a cuckold marriage. Wishing you the best.

RKfuncouple · Post by **RKfuncouple** » Sun Aug 04, 2024 8:55 pm

Well, I just read this entire thread tonight. Wish I could've put my two cents in earlier but that's life.

As I was reading I could literally write the next passage before I read it. It is such a common way these things flow, and what we as men don't/can't see is that our "giving permission" in situations where our partners aren't sure is basically telling them it's safe. And women love feeling safe. And then when we get these oh oh feelings, we don't sit down and sort them out before hand together and in a very safe, positive way, and that throws them for a loop and you can't blame them. Being brand new to this is also the problem so you can't be blamed for it either really. Ground rules should always be set up beforehand and adhered to. Research the subject constantly, it is your friend and you should never stop reading and learning about your particular kinks/desires.

You know you want it to happen but you need to make sure that it's done in a way that both of you are going in eyes wide open knowing your both ok with it because you've put in place your boundaries. Good luck, and I think this can still work out quite well for both of you from the sounds of the last few posts.

Post by **elina** » Mon Aug 05, 2024 12:00 am

Tacoma75 wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 04, 2024 1:08 pm
Actually she has mentioned several times about guys flirting with her at the grocery store and also when she and Zaylee go out. I figured she would be a one boyfriend wife but I guess it's possible she may take a second.

She and I were going to go out to eat tonight but she said he called and asked her out instead. I was a little put off at first but realized it is fairly hot having her boyfriend steal her away from me and she chose him and not me. She told me she will make it worth my while when she gets back. I have no idea what that means but am a mixture of excitement and anxiety.

Also thanks for the well wishes!

Dear Tacoma

I am so happy to see that Betsy and you have found your way back together,
but now in what I, from reading your thread from start to finish, will actually be a much healthier relationship for both of you;
Betsy as a Hotwife bordering on Cuckoldress, and you as Her loving cuckolded husband.

It was clear from the start that you really love Betsy and that you realize that She needs good lovers to take care of Her.
You did a wonderful job to help Her realize that this was something you wanted for Her. Now that She finally made the leap, She obviously has no interest in going back to the old status. Also, even if you struggled a lot in the final transition, it was clear how much you were turned on by the idea in spite of struggling to accept it. I think this is a very natural development.

I also think that Betsy not talking to you, making you sleep in the guest room for as long as it would take was healthy.
Your beloved Wife has simply demonstrated to you that She is the one in charge now, and from the quote above it is clear that you are now coming around to fully accept it.

I think you really love Betsy, now is the time to show Her that you really do and that you want Her to be sexually satisfied by Her Lover(s). It is wonderful that She is suggesting that you will be allowed to watch Her and Her lover; She does want to involve you, She does want to keep Her. Keep loving Her and supporting Her and I think you will have a wonderful life with this amazing Lady.

Sincerely
elina
(submissive male)

Xmatty1 · Post by **Xmatty1** » Mon Aug 05, 2024 7:10 am

Looking forward to reading about what happened last night.

Dream Weaver · Post by **Dream Weaver** » Mon Aug 05, 2024 7:55 am

RKfuncouple wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 04, 2024 8:55 pm
Well, I just read this entire thread tonight. Wish I could've put my two cents in earlier but that's life.

As I was reading I could literally write the next passage before I read it. It is such a common way these things flow, and what we as men don't/can't see is that our "giving permission" in situations where our partners aren't sure is basically telling them it's safe. And women love feeling safe. And then when we get these oh oh feelings, we don't sit down and sort them out before hand together and in a very safe, positive way, and that throws them for a loop and you can't blame them. Being brand new to this is also the problem so you can't be blamed for it either really. Ground rules should always be set up beforehand and adhered to. Research the subject constantly, it is your friend and you should never stop reading and learning about your particular kinks/desires.

You know you want it to happen but you need to make sure that it's done in a way that both of you are going in eyes wide open knowing your both ok with it because you've put in place your boundaries. Good luck, and I think this can still work out quite well for both of you from the sounds of the last few posts.

Yeah, the whole giving permission thing is also a little odd because if you take it in tiny steps and you supposedly “do it right” the actual two people involved have to go through this game where there is always a no and then at a later date a yes. if you’re the actual person with the sexual feelings having to deny temptation, it’s a recipe for annoying frustration.

Pecannut · Post by **Pecannut** » Fri Aug 09, 2024 6:13 am

Would love an update how things went with you guys. Did you get a present?

Tacoma75 · Post by **Tacoma75** » Mon Aug 19, 2024 8:39 am

Well it's been a hectic few weeks. Work issues and also Betsy has been seeing Joe regularly. Two Sundays ago she texted me a video of her giving Joe a blowjob. It was quite amazing. He was rock hard and she was giving him some TLC with her full hand wrapped around the base and her mouth working the top half. I complained this weekend that she's gone a lot and she said she wants to start bringing him over to the house some so she's not away as much.

He also wants to take her to the beach this coming weekend, to which I protested. She said I was welcome to come but she and he would be an item and we both agreed I wasn't ready for that. They're definitely in a honeymoon phase and she is more or less reassuring me it won't last forever.

edgedndenied · Post by **edgedndenied** » Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:19 am

Thanks for the update. Do you and Betsy still have sex especialy PIV? Do you spend quality time together or is she emotionaly with him much of the time ie. texting phone sex etc.

BallSpanking · Post by **BallSpanking** » Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:33 am

You and Betsy seem to be getting closer to the point where you can see them together. If you thought that video was hot, you have something else coming that will blow you away. Perhaps you should start with listening to them outside their bedroom door (my guess is they will want to use the master bedroom and your marital bed, so be ready for that).

Please keep us posted.

Post by **elina** » Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:55 am

Dear Tacoma

Great hearing from you and glad to see that it appears to you and Betsy have worked out the most pressing issues.
Interesting that you used the term "It was quite amazing" to describe your experience watching the video of Betsy giving Joe a blowjob. Does this also mean you enjoyed it? Did it make you rock hard?

Clearly Betsy is making an effort to involve you more and ensure that you understand how much She enjoys this.

Looking forward to hear more as things evolve.

Sincerely
elina

Xmatty1 · Post by **Xmatty1** » Mon Aug 19, 2024 10:02 am

Thanks for the update. How does Joe feel about coming over to your house to sleep with your wife while you are there? Have you been able to have sex with Betsy since all this started?

Midnight Joker · Post by **Midnight Joker** » Mon Aug 19, 2024 11:23 am

Tacoma75 wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 19, 2024 8:39 am
Well it's been a hectic few weeks. Work issues and also Betsy has been seeing Joe regularly. Two Sundays ago she texted me a video of her giving Joe a blowjob. It was quite amazing. He was rock hard and she was giving him some TLC with her full hand wrapped around the base and her mouth working the top half. I complained this weekend that she's gone a lot and she said she wants to start bringing him over to the house some so she's not away as much.

He also wants to take her to the beach this coming weekend, to which I protested. She said I was welcome to come but she and he would be an item and we both agreed I wasn't ready for that. They're definitely in a honeymoon phase and she is more or less reassuring me it won't last forever.

Wow, that's going to advanced cuckolding pretty quickly. Would love an update on what's going on with you, Betsy and her lover. Zaylee seemed to be egging her on which added a dynamic that isn't usually in the mix. This may be why communication wasn't the best, since she was talking to someone else. Despite the emotions, you seemed to be turned on still and enjoy sharing her. Is she giving you more details, such as his using protection (or not)?

wannabecuck69 · Post by **wannabecuck69** » Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:10 pm

Tacoma75 wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 19, 2024 8:39 am
Well it's been a hectic few weeks. Work issues and also Betsy has been seeing Joe regularly. Two Sundays ago she texted me a video of her giving Joe a blowjob. It was quite amazing. He was rock hard and she was giving him some TLC with her full hand wrapped around the base and her mouth working the top half. I complained this weekend that she's gone a lot and she said she wants to start bringing him over to the house some so she's not away as much.

He also wants to take her to the beach this coming weekend, to which I protested. She said I was welcome to come but she and he would be an item and we both agreed I wasn't ready for that. They're definitely in a honeymoon phase and she is more or less reassuring me it won't last forever.

Tacoma,

This is what you wanted the only thing missing is better communication between you and Betsy. It’s obvious you’re now a beta cuck, all 3 of you know it so embrace it fully and stop fighting it.
Go to Betsy, kneel at her feet and ask for her forgiveness for being so possessive once she started. Explain that you just need more communication and involvement in what’s happening, that you want to be her submissive cuck and support her but you need to be more involved so she can take you deeper into your cuckold sub space. Tell her you would like to watch, then clean up her boyfriend’s alpha cum from her pussy. Tell her you want to thank him for pleasing your wife. Ask them both how can you make their pleasure even better? Show her you still love and support her.
Once you quit fighting and accept your place as a beta cuckold, all of your lives will be happier. Just make sure she knows you need better communication and involvement.
Perhaps you can go on the trip as their butler/servant/clean up boy?
Imagine they sleep in a king bed, while your on a pull out sofa. They fuck all night, you prep and clean up. In the morning you bring them coffee and breakfast in bed. Then at the beach and by the pool, you bring them their drinks, etc.
I bet you’ll like that situation.

Best of luck!

patw3268 · Post by **patw3268** » Tue Aug 20, 2024 12:40 pm

So hot!

SubGuy · Post by **SubGuy** » Tue Aug 20, 2024 3:22 pm

Did he take her to the beach? And did you go along?

thinman · Post by **thinman** » Thu Aug 29, 2024 12:55 pm

This afternoon I went to my dentist’s office for a cleaning. My hygienist is very lovely, and of course I thought about you and Betsy. If I was several decades younger, I might have considered adopting some of Joe’s approaches, but given my age, I’m sure I would have been labeled as an old creep and banished from the office. So I did not ask her out at the end of today’s session! We did though have a friendly conversation while she did her work.

So how are things going with you and Betsy? I’m sure she is greatly enjoying her time with Joe, and I hope that you and she are also having some quality time together. I’d be most happy to read an update if you have time.

venus-can99 · Post by **venus-can99** » Sat Aug 31, 2024 1:23 pm

Tacoma hope things are going well with all of you and you have been able to see Betsy with Joe

Statein88 · Post by **Statein88** » Fri Sep 13, 2024 4:22 pm

Shiphead wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 26, 2024 1:34 pm

BallSpanking wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 26, 2024 10:30 am
I think Tacoma's latest post is revealing, albeit unfortunate. But I also think there is plenty of room for the two of them to sit down calmly and lovingly (not with a purpose to level accusations or angry reproach), and talk about the dynamic that Tacoma hoped to create within their marriage.
I think that if his wife understood that he did not, and does not wish to sabotage their marriage, but rather, enhance it, she would be a greatly relieved and understand she can continue to see Joe, and have a loving supportive marriage at home at the same time.
So Joe, I hope you can establish a loving and conciliatory communication along these lines so your wife does not feel put aside or dismissed by your desires for her, and for your marriage.
I would also suggest, Tacoma, that you come to terms with the fact that once your wife does decide to become a HW, you cannot dictate the terms or frequency of her affair with Joe. Remember, she has to be self motivated and enjoying that interlude, not stressed out that her husband will give her the 'third degree' over it each time she sees him. I think you need to relax and enjoy the fact she has a lover she (clearly) enjoys seeing, and you need to make this an activity that involves you as well. Whereas I doubt she is willing to let you in on her interaction during their trysts, I do think there is a great possibility for the reclaiming once she gets home, even if you only are allowed to please her orally. It will give your wife a new insight and appreciation of your love for her, and your excitement and acceptance from seeing her so well satisfied and pleased. Buy her some flowers, and some nice wine, and sit down with her for a loving one-on-one conversation.
Please keep us posted.
I would say I agree with most of your advice. To begin, the fb is Joe. Tacoma is the spouse. But to say like many others that once a wife becomes a HW, that the husband has no say in the LS is wrong. He may have wanted it and pushed to start it, but she agreed. So to cast all blame on him is ridiculous.
Their relationship should still be paramount. Do you really think he becomes just a used man/husband who no longer is part of any needs, especially sexual needs and deesires from the relationship or responsibilities from the wife. Sadly, that is not even close to true. There are so many stupid examples I can run past you. So Betsy wants to go shopping for a dress. They agree it is in their budget. So Betsy goes and max's out their bank account and credit card because he said he agreed she could shop for clothes within their budget. Does that make any sense too you? To anyone? Nothing in a relationship is positively infinite. Every minute is by agreement and often compromise. To think starting or agreeing for our spouse to become a HW is automatically excluding ourselves from any current or future relationship decision is just a babysitter and financial facilitator.

Great points Shiphead and I totally agree with you.

This is supposed to be a mutual thing in this case, I believe, and not every couple is in to the humiliation, secrecy and giving up total control. Many people want a mutually satisfying experience.

CuriousOne36 · Post by **CuriousOne36** » Sat Sep 14, 2024 5:29 am

I hope things work out and you can enjoy watching them together. That would be my ultimate fantasy to get to watch if it ever happens.

readyy2009 · Post by **readyy2009** » Thu Sep 19, 2024 4:01 pm

You had been arguing for weeks and then finally decide to have dinner and sleep together and then she cancels because he calls? I get the hotness if it was just another date but this seemed like a crucial time in your marriage...HW or Cuck there still needs to be some priority put on the relationship which from your posts it is hard to see that she is doing that

Shiphead · Post by **Shiphead** » Thu Sep 19, 2024 8:19 pm

Ready,
I agree.Some of these situations don't fit the fantasy we imagined. I would have a tough time feeling second to someone she's fucking. That would be a problem in my relationship. But others like being degraded and that may work for them. There are no rules to this kink except what the couple want. But then there are guys who so want their fantasy of their wives being fucked by someone else that they don't discuss boundaries. They may each have completely different ideas on the situation and some of the scenarios might not be in sync at all. The only way I see a HW kink work out is if their primary relationship is number one.
When some women state that if the FB gives them better sex that then the wife would want to leave their spouse for a better fuck. That is really telling if she says that. A better FB doesn't make a great relationship. A lot of things go into a relationship and sex isn't number 1. Many of the guys who have big cocks and fuck great have attitudes and want many women. Or may be real POS but fuck great. Good sex is a horrible thing to base a relationship upon.

kai ryan · Post by **kai ryan** » Thu Oct 31, 2024 5:29 am

Dear Tacoma,

When I started reading this thread I really enjoyed it and it touched me so much that it's hard to describe. It's like the perfect scenario every wannabe cuckold dreams of, someone is actually living it. Sad to see the way it turned out but still you guys can make out of this, there are many couples who were in this same situation and came out stronger than ever.

Try to understand from her perspective, for a vanilla woman this is the biggest thing in her life. Give her some time, this is the time for you to give unconditional love and support. Let her know that you want her forever and ever. She loves you and she'll eventually understand your POV. I hope your relationship grows stronger and this thread/story good on for eternity.

coastalkid · Post by **coastalkid** » Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:02 pm

kai ryan wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 31, 2024 5:29 am
Dear Tacoma,

When I started reading this thread I really enjoyed it and it touched me so much that it's hard to describe. It's like the perfect scenario every wannabe cuckold dreams of, someone is actually living it. Sad to see the way it turned out but still you guys can make out of this, there are many couples who were in this same situation and came out stronger than ever.

Try to understand from her perspective, for a vanilla woman this is the biggest thing in her life. Give her some time, this is the time for you to give unconditional love and support. Let her know that you want her forever and ever. She loves you and she'll eventually understand your POV. I hope your relationship grows stronger and this thread/story good on for eternity.

I've read a lot of posts where there are just as many that did not come out stronger than ever. I won't deny that there are plenty that do have their marriage strengthened but that seems like a kind of 50/50 thing here.

So, Tacoma's wife has had her taste of the hot wife lifestyle. She apparently loved the thrill and wants more. She knows how good it is in reality. It seems like she should be the one to grateful and show some sensitivity. This is where everyone jumps in and says, "Well, he wanted it!" or, "Now that it's started you have to accept it."

Maybe the marriage will be stronger if SHE tried understand from HIS perspective, for a first time hot wife husband this is the biggest thing in his life. Give him some time, this is the time for HER to give unconditional love and support. Let him know that you want him forever and ever. If she really wants this to work, she needs to be aware that he may not be having the same wonderful experience she's having.

J0eeY · Post by **J0eeY** » Tue Jan 07, 2025 3:56 pm

I’ve been following this post from the start, and was hooked from the start. I’ve been checking on a daily basis to see if there’s been an update. I’d like to find out what the final outcome was or are we suppose to use our imagination and create our on conclusions?

sandy691196 · Post by **sandy691196** » Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:03 pm

coastalkid wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:02 pm

kai ryan wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 31, 2024 5:29 am
Dear Tacoma,

When I started reading this thread I really enjoyed it and it touched me so much that it's hard to describe. It's like the perfect scenario every wannabe cuckold dreams of, someone is actually living it. Sad to see the way it turned out but still you guys can make out of this, there are many couples who were in this same situation and came out stronger than ever.

Try to understand from her perspective, for a vanilla woman this is the biggest thing in her life. Give her some time, this is the time for you to give unconditional love and support. Let her know that you want her forever and ever. She loves you and she'll eventually understand your POV. I hope your relationship grows stronger and this thread/story good on for eternity.
I've read a lot of posts where there are just as many that did not come out stronger than ever. I won't deny that there are plenty that do have their marriage strengthened but that seems like a kind of 50/50 thing here.

So, Tacoma's wife has had her taste of the hot wife lifestyle. She apparently loved the thrill and wants more. She knows how good it is in reality. It seems like she should be the one to grateful and show some sensitivity. This is where everyone jumps in and says, "Well, he wanted it!" or, "Now that it's started you have to accept it."

Maybe the marriage will be stronger if SHE tried understand from HIS perspective, for a first time hot wife husband this is the biggest thing in his life. Give him some time, this is the time for HER to give unconditional love and support. Let him know that you want him forever and ever. If she really wants this to work, she needs to be aware that he may not be having the same wonderful experience she's having.

This perspective is often missing in threads. A man starting his wife off in the LS may discover later that it goes far beyond what he thought it's gonna be like.

In many cases the husband lumps it and thinks it is "cuck angst" and suppresses it. In my view in some cases that is dehumanizing.

A man fantasises about the LS for pleasure. He suggests to his SO that this might bring them pleasure beyond their mundane lives. The idea is that it would enhance their marriage. Some wives get persuaded some don't. Unless a wife is somehow "forced" into it, the choice is her's as a consenting adult.

Then either the wife or the husband has 2nd thoughts or one of them discovers that this is not enhancing their marriage. It's causing distress.

What then?

Cuck threads often continue egging on the OP to suppress the "cuck angst". It looks like a Roman Amphitheater! Let lives and marriages go to hell as long as the hot stuff keeps coming.

Here the OP had expressed his reservations right at the threshold of the LS ! He can't be accused of "letting it happen" while suffering quietly! Some hubbies "let it happen" because they buy into the BS that since they had suggested the LS so now they are like bonded slaves!

OP tried his best to communicate his pain to his wife. Whatever happened after that makes him a victim, not a partner in the LS..

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